Phil Ting's picture

How do we get more MUNI lines and service, not less?  Is the answer fewer stops?  In the Sunset, there's a MUNI stop every four blocks.  What if we had stops every eight blocks?  MUNI lines would stop less frequently and help us get to our destination faster.  Maybe this would allow us to get more service without increasing fees or altering our budget.

DonRoss's picture

There are many areas of our

There are many areas of our City that need fewer stops.  What about thinking about moving to clean bio fuel buses, so we can get more buses off of the overhead wires.  Overhead wires, and fewer bus stops would make the entire system move faster and more efficient. Its time to rethink our entire overhead wire strategy.  Even though we get the electricity from Hetch Hetchy, we can begin to slowly, particularly along major bus lines like the Geary, Mission, Market Street, begin to use buses without the overhead wires that run on clean fuel, and I agree, with fewer stops spaced out more appropriately.

bobbyh's picture


I remember last year there was a "Transit Effectiveness Project" down where they did a full analysis of Muni lines to do just what Phil is suggesting--find where we can get rid of redundancies and have Muni stop less.  I am not sure what came out of that, but I believe they did reduce some stops, much to many of the neighborhoods' dismay, but in the end I think they actually did reduce them.  It takes some political courage to stand up and really make this type of reform for Muni (or more of it) because it seems many people want less stops to speed Muni up, but not their stop taken away. This is a must if we want to get better efficiencies out of the system, which should be a huge priority and at the top of the list of our elected officials because let's be honest, Muni needs a lot of help.  Another idea to speed Muni up that I think could make a significant difference is coordinated stop lights that turn green when a bus approaches.  Can't really think of any downside to this and this would really help keep those buses moving. 

For all the policies that the Board of Supervisors pushes to "get people out of their cars" with more expensive neighborhood parking passes, increases in parking meter rates, higher parking taxes, etc., there is probably no more effective way to accomplish their goal of having people drive less than to give people another reasonable option.  Look at other cities like New York and Boston, they have stellar public transportation systems that are reliable and the result is that everyone uses them, not their cars.  Incentives always work better than punishment.

sfgiants906's picture

More reliable service

I wholeheartedly agree with Phil that there are many places in the city where we need less stops, not only on muni metro lines, but on bus lines as well. This would improve travel times, but my worry is that for some of our elderly residents this might lead to walking times that are too long.

Along those same lines (no pun intended), I live in the Richmond district and we truly have no fast, reliable way to get downtown except for maybe the 38L, but this is often overcrowded. Perhaps we could simply reduce the number of local lines and increase the number of express lines. This would add no taxpayer cost, and might even save money, which could be invested in other service improvements. I also really like the idea where the streetlights are timed to turn green whenever a muni bus or train approaches. These are common sense solutions that have minimal cost.

And then, in the long term, once our supply of funding from the state returns, I would love to see a muni metro line in the richmond district. this is something we have long needed, and would do wonders for travel times to and from downtown. If could stop every 6 blocks, at the same places the 38L stops, and then perhaps join up with the underground lines at van ness or civic center stations.

Galomorro's picture

Somes Lines Far too Crowded

The #1 California, to name one of the lines, is far too crowded, packed no matter what time you're riding it, even though this bus does come fairly frequently. The only exception is that if another bus is right behind. The buses jerk a lot and people can't sit down because it's already packed when they get on. It takes so long to push through the standees that sometimes people can't get off in time at their stops. There should be a lot more attention paid to people that get on at the back doors so as not to pay their fares, and the bus driver can't see what's going on because the buses are too crowded. Young thugs play loud rap music and do graffiti. The drivers either don't see or choose not to see. 

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